Waking Up With Sam Harris #47 – The Frontiers of Political Correctness (with Gad Saad)

Waking Up With Sam Harris #47 - The Frontiers of Political Correctness (with Gad Saad)

In this episode of the Waking Up podcast, Sam Harris speaks with Gad Saad about political correctness, academic taboos, Islam, immigration, Donald Trump, and other topics.

Gad Saad is Professor of Marketing at Concordia University (Montreal, Canada) and the holder of the Concordia University Research Chair in Evolutionary Behavioral Sciences and Darwinian Consumption. He has held Visiting Associate Professorships at Cornell University, Dartmouth College, and the University of California–Irvine. Saad has pioneered the use of evolutionary psychology in marketing and consumer behavior. His works include The Consuming Instinct: What Juicy Burgers, Ferraris, Pornography, and Gift Giving Reveal About Human Nature; The Evolutionary Bases of Consumption; Evolutionary Psychology in the Business Sciences, along with 75+ scientific papers, many at the intersection of evolutionary psychology and a broad range of disciplines including consumer behavior, marketing, advertising, psychology, medicine, and economics. He received a B.Sc. (1988) and an M.B.A. (1990) both from McGill University, and his M.S. (1993) and Ph.D. (1994) from Cornell University.

YouTube Channel: The Saad Truth
Twitter: @GadSaad

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  • Ryan Sprenkels

    Okay, i am going to donate

  • a8lg6p

    Interesting that they mention Robert Spencer. For me, that was the tipping point when I started to turn conservative. There was this guy who I felt dirty even listening to, because he had been so demonized by the left. Then I actually read his books, and found them to be reasonable. That was the point at which I realized I had been trapped in a groupthink bubble my entire life, and then I discovered there were many brilliant conservative intellectuals with important and interesting things to say. I realized I was no different from a Bible Belt creationist who grew up learning that I had to shut my ears to the corrupting influence of evil secularists and scientists lest I be seduced to the path of Satan.

  • a8lg6p

    There might actually be more oppressive orthodoxy in modern universities than there was in the medieval Catholic Church, which BTW invented the modern university. If this sounds outrageous, do some research… Unfortunately many prominent atheists regurgitate centuries old ant-Catholic propaganda. I recommend books like "God's Philosophers", Tom Woods's "How the Catholic Church….something…Western Civilization" or any of several excellent books by Rodney Stark.

  • a8lg6p

    I know he's sort of playing Devil's advocate, but… It seems like Harris's argument here could be turned against him. Why are you so interested in whether there may or may not be a difference between Muslims and Christians? Or between Christians and atheists? There are so many other happier, PC things you could choose to investigate and talk about. Isn't there something a bit unseemly about even asking that question? Who else but a bigot would even want to know? What good could that information be put to?

  • joe Tatt

    Rename the podcast "the irony of multiculturalism"; Jewish people flee the Nazis in 30-40s. They change the intellectual climate in the USA and Britain, all nationalism is evil and the notion of multiculturalism is invented. Meme arrives in Europe and along with colonial guilt leads to start of the destruction of the traditional nation and social cohesion. Mass Muslim immigration starts to spread back to the US and now two Jewish people are fearful of the results it might have on Jewish people in the US. Irony is such a wonderful thing, or as the bible puts in nicely "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap".

  • ethan rowe

    It's difficult to find information on such a diverse set of issues one can trust. Let alone on one channel. I love your podcasts, keep it up.

  • a8lg6p

    One good reason to find the real scientific truth on taboo topics like say race and IQ that should appeal to people who are concerned about racial demagoguery is that we would be best served by having the actual truth. The empirically verifiable truth is almost certain to be nuanced. There may very well be differences between racial groups as a consequnce of natural selection, but if we can understand what they are, we prove not only what differnces they may account for, but also which ones they can't. If OTOH you just repeat scientifically illiterate ideologically motivated mantras, like race is a social construct with no biological reality… More and more people are aware that they are just flat out being lied to by people who claim to speak in the name of science, and that can degrade public trust in science, and that may make people more amenable to the views of people with more extreme and simplistic views who may exaggerate or distort scientific findings, but at least aren't flat out lying about them.

  • Gay Salmons Tricycle Bicycle Plate

    Gad Saad's voice does not make me glad listening to it, it makes me Saad listening to it

  • Daniel Luna

    So what are we supposed to do with Muslims them? Kill them all? what? I don't understand the upshot

  • Daniel Luna

    oh these poor victim of men..they can't be biggoted in public and they are so sad for being called out on it.. oh these poor men.. guess their racist thinking will just be "spun" against them.

  • StravoS

    Simply saying Trump is "Dangerous" over and over and over again is NOT an argument.
    WTF does "dangerous" mean? Make a prediction! Make some link between something you fear and some Action he's done.
    E V I D E N C E . Not just your magical mind reading abilities.
    But if you want focus Solely on phrasing and words(I guess you are a liberal) how about this:

    Hillary Clinton: Russia even hacked into the Democratic National Committee, maybe even some state election systems. So, we’ve got to step up our game. Make sure we are well defended and able to take the fight to those who go after us.
    As President, I will make it clear, that the United States will treat cyber attacks just like any other attack. We will be ready with serious political, economic and military responses.

    Can you explain to me how possibly going to War with Russian over cyber attacks that are NOT EVEN PROVEN to actually originate in Russia is not THE most fucking insanely irresponsible and terrifying shit anyone has said this whole election?

  • StravoS

    Have you actually lost your fucking mind Sam?
    "There's certain questions upon which any kind of significant interest suggest that there's something Wrong with you"
    Really? REALLY? Are these "Hate Facts" then? This is EXACTLY the same nonsensical bullshit that regressive morons use.
    "One wonders what is the purpose of seeking that information(IQ racial differences) and what would you do if you had it?"
    In case you haven't noticed there are some pretty important disparities in the US(and everywhere else) when it comes to race.
    You think maybe… just maybe figuring out what are the actual genetic differences between different races might be pretty important information to ACTUALLY SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS ?

    What are trying to say here?
    That Black people ARE actually genetically Inferior (in most relevant ways)?
    And that upon learning this information the vast majority of the public will hate them, or start killing them, or reinstate slavery?
    That is the only Scenario in which your reasoning makes any sense whatsoever.

    1)If research is done that shows there are NO major differences between the races then not only is there no problem but it would be absolutely the Best possible way to completely Shut Down all the racists and the white nationalists.
    Instead of having sentimental arguments you would actually have hard evidence.
    (But who needs actual evidence to back up your claims when you can just get offended by the topic and insinuate anyone who asks questions has some hidden awful motive. Not everyone has Your mind reading abilities Sam, some of us lowly peasants have to resort to evidence).

    2)If there ARE major differences why is Knowing this "Problematic" ?!
    If blacks are dumber then whites… then blacks ARE dumber regardless of whether or Not we KNOW this as a matter of fact.
    If this IS REALITY then we have to Deal with it. And the more we Know about Reality the Better equipped we are to address the problems that we face. This is Called SCIENCE.

    If I have a genetic lack or predisposition to certain behaviors I WANT TO KNOW!
    Precisely to avoid falling into these traps and what my limitations are. And know how to improve. And for others to know what I can and cannot do and how they can deal with me. And the more we can understand about each other and accept our biology the more compassionate we can be instead of blaming each other.
    This is YOUR Argument in your Free Will book. This is what you were arguing for in your chat with Dan Dennett.
    Most Parents don't just throw their children in the trash if they discover they have Down Syndrome.
    And I don't believe that most white people are horrific evil racist monsters either.
    It is when people do NOT have any facts and explanations that they resort to demonizing each and burn witches and sacrifice virgins and perform Final Solutions, not when they have too much knowledge and understanding.

    What exactly is your alternative? Covering your ears and screaming "LALALA" ?
    Throwing government money at blacks to appease them? Demonizing whites because they outperform blacks?
    This is same line of thinking that Christians use to shut down stem cell research.
    Or religious assholes of Any kind use: This is Forbidden Knowledge. God forbids this. Why would you want to know about this? Are you a heretic? Are you questioning His sacred plan?
    Fuck that! And fuck you! Get over your stupid white guilt original sin! You are not helping or protecting anyone but yourself.