Have I Converted?
Get the latest Penn EVERYDAY: crackle.com I let churches use my PennSays about proselytizing, and now someone says tha...
Get the latest Penn EVERYDAY: crackle.com I let churches use my PennSays about proselytizing, and now someone says tha...
Gosh. I reckon this is the best video I’ve ever seen on youtube.
(Do you believe in Gosh?)
is this the guy that appears in one of the episodes of friends?? the guy was selling books to joey.
Dear Penn,
Unlike you, I am a Christian. I am a Libertarian because I am a Christian. Also, I thoroughly delight in your videos. You seem to have a excellent head on your shoulders and a gift for making your thoughts clear to others. Keep on keepin’ on.
Excellent luck and God bless,
Craig
Once again, I never said capitalism equals democracy. There have been plenty of dictatorships and kingdoms where capitalism has existed.
History refutes you.
I reckon your statement that the opposite of an exchange society would be a command society does indicate a believe that democracy and capitalism are the same. That was your assertion. That people will “degenerate to their lowest instincts” is a further indication of equating an economic system with political system. You did not explicitly state that capitalism equals democracy, but the implication is there.
Pertaining to the free markets, look up the assumptions for free market systems.
I never said that capitalism equals democracy. You place words in my mouth.
I imagine most people with at least a high school education know that capitalism is an economic system (really an aggregate of exchanges of goods and services) while democracy is a political system (rule by the many).
Therefore, I did not make any such fake dichotomy.
@jtwidmer I’m not Penn, really, I just help out with the comments. Penn’s in Vegas, Crackle’s in LA.
I don’t believe I stated anything about market forces. But, there seems to be the assumption capitalism == democracy and not having a pure capitalism is a “slippery slope” to despotism. By setting up this fake dicotomy, both you and Dave can argue from dread that anything other than your view is immoral and unethical.
very cool! I could never really get behind a church until I found that place because they really go and do the things that so many other churches just say we should do. Thanks for giving permission to use your video, I’m sorry that so many churches chose to misrepresent your theological views with it as opposed to just letting the message speak for itself. I hope you’re doing well sir, you seem like a excellent man.
@jtwidmer Hey, we have a Vineyard here in LA!
I want to let you know that my church, the Vineyard in Cincinnati, showed the video, but they did play all of it and they made sure to say, in a very respectful way, what you do beleive simply because they didn’t want any fake information coming out about you. I hope you are well.
The opposite of an exchange society (the kind with a market) would be either be a command society or a prehistoric society in which you kill or be killed.
People degenerate to their lowest instincts when they are not allowed to freely interact and trade with each other. They are one step away from animals.
I reckon you misunderstand what market forces are, netmystique. They are merely the aggregate of typical people buying, selling, trading goods and services between each other.
It is not some sinister horror puppet show run by a bunch of bankers like leftists and conspiracy theorists believe. To say it more simply, capitalism, or an exchange society is people interacting with each other.
I know exactly what an axiom is. For example, 2+2=4 is an axiom. The sky usually being blue in the daytime is an axiom. Objects falling because of gravity is an axiom. Anyone can observe these things. They are therefore axioms.
Existence existing is also an axiom. What is not an axiom, but, is whether some sentient being made it. I know the stars are there. I do not know if someone consciously made them, that I do not have any evidence of.
@Oliver1456 Are you aware of yourself the same way you were aware of yourself when you were 2 years ancient? Is it so hard to view ourselves as hopelessly ignorant and barely aware when viewed through our future selves or through the future of our species? How do YOU know you are having “feelings”? The answers are right in front of you. You just refuse to accept them.
@Oliver1456: So, your self-evident proof is self-evident. Duh. In other words, you say god exists because you have axiomial faith in it. “God exists” is really a supposition. You can knit a whole world around a supposition, but it’s still ONLY a supposition, and everything else around it collapses. Let’s try my supposition on for size… earth was seeded by aliens. I can knit a whole universe around that. In fact, it’s the basis for the video game Halo. And I find it much more likely.
nurbSoldier you show probably look up what the definition of an axiom is. An axiom doesn’t require proof, it is something that is self-evident. That is what an axiom is.
No its not an axiom. It does not become an axiom until his/hers/its existence is proven.
Therefore, until the existence of a god is proven, the rest of your argument is meaningless.
nurbSoldier The existence of God is an axiom. It doesn’t require proof. It is self evident. Us and the universe didn’t drop out of a storks ass did it? Okay then. Now that that’s settled.
You got it backwards. No one has to prove that something doesn’t exist. What one has to prove is that God A or God B exists.
lack of evidence for all god’s leads you back to the null hypothesis as most likely what more do you need.
Penn, this guy here is going to try to F the ineffable. Atheism is not even a scientific probability. Give me so scientific evidence to suppost atheism? Anyone?
tehlinebeginstoblur I believe in evolution. Normally when you question a question like: “why do I experience ineffable feelings?” to a person who a person who does not believe in God. They will say, “well it just takes billions of years.” And then what? Does natural selection perform miracles? What does natural selection do that makes us all “aware.” I’m here. I’m listening. What does natural selection do that makes us all conscious? Don’t give me some bullshit about nucleotides either.
coming together to form the first RNA, which would then become DNA, or possibly through chemical reactions through which life arose mostly from non-life via iron sulfide (not going to go into the details of each theory), but all in a primordial soup that miraculously led to the formation of the first cell. That to me is far more magnificent, incredible, awe-inspiring and gorgeous than the thought of some supernatural being with the power to go “poof” and make such a deeply flawed species.
Firstly, where did Penn say these things that you’re quoting? When you quote someone, it means they spoke those exact words. Secondly, on behalf of Penn’s unspoken words, I will inform you that “conscious, sentient beings” most certainly did not appear from nothing. It took billions of years of evolution before we reached what you refer to as “sentient” (or in better words, “thinking” beings), traced all the way back to the first single celled organisms, which came from different molecules