A logically consistent atheistic view that doesn’t result in despair
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You use the word “logic” a lot. My limited expericence with God points in quite the opposite direction…in that the closer you come to God, the less logic applies.
The more you talk about it, the farther from it you go,
I heard the siren-song of Reason but I knew Truth in my belly.
-[pre-christian] Egyptian Proverb.
I do not mind being small. I can live with the thought of being a spec of sand in the ever expanding universe.
Whats so dark about that?
Why do you need god?
Do you honestly believe that simply repeating this bullshit convinces anyone? Or that it convinces me?
Nevermind, it’s a rhetorical question. I know you’re allergic to independent thought. You complete idiot.
Like I said…Adam and Eve sin is in all of us…but we can overcome it with Jesus (Yeshua)…the only way to the Father (God). There is only one right God…and we human beings are not God’s or Godesses because the flesh dies from it’s sin nature…God made us from dust and dust we return to (the body). There is the soul, without the soul the body dies! To save the soul is to know Yeshua and believe!
The apple has been eaten. The tower has been built. We have become like Gods, knowing excellent and evil.
Thou shalt have no other Gods before me. That even means ourselves. Being vain and thinking we are all “best”. No one is better than the next. but those who don’t believe in “yeshua-Jesus” will have a stumbling block…Jesus comes and you all will see this so called “religious” -”Bible thumper” or “Born Again’ woman :who is “spiritual’ and not religious—because it’s a relationship…that is unconditional like that no one has ever given me on this Earth…Jesus-Yeshua.
God so loveth the world that he gave his only begotten son (Jesus,Yeshua) to die on the cross…that who ever believes in him shall have everlasting life. He who endures to the end shall have everlasting life. Jesus likes…do you like? Who can you save without the Bible? None!
Romans thought that Christians were Atheists and many Christians were hung, beheaded and many other things because they believed in Yeshua (Jesus) and preached the Bible.
Remember! yeshua is coming back soon and when he does…You’ll know I am not a lier!
So, I am to believe that atheist have it all corret! No they don’t: because 1: they are not God 2: Basically only One has the answer 3: but Yeshua (Jesus) is real and is coming back soon.
common Atheist answer when you speak about Yeshua,God (Bible), Angels, and ect.
“Just forget the whole thing if we can’t agree which one we are trying to say, say something else instead, something we can agree on.”
what an athiest would say: I don’t believe in fairies either
but that doesn’t mean I am personally dissing Tinkerbell or Sugar Plum.
god n.
1 a (in many religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshipped as having power over nature, human fortunes, etc.; a deity. b an image, idol, animal, or other object worshipped as divine or symbolizing a god.
He maketh a god, and worshipeth it. –Is. xliv. 15.
The race of Israel . . . bowing lowly down To bestial gods. –Milton.
2. The Supreme Being; the eternal and infinite Spirit, the Creator, and the Sovereign of the universe; Jehovah.
God is a Spirit; and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. –John iv. 24.
Atheists don’t believe in gods
It is a travesty to define atheism as the theory that God (or G-d) does not exist. Atheists do not believe in gods. Any gods. Not just the one right god called God that we (dictionary authors and smart people reading the dictionary) know really does exist.
atheism n.
the theory or belief that God does not exist.
atheist n.
atheistic adj.
atheistical adj.
[French athéisme from Greek atheos without God (as a-1 + theos god)]
Atheism: doubting God, G-d and the gods
atheism
A”the*ism, n. [Cf. F. ath['e]isme. See Atheist.] 1. The disbelief or denial of the existence of a God, or supreme intelligent Being.
Atheism is a ferocious system, that leaves nothing above us to excite awe, nor around us to awaken tenderness. –R. Hall.
Atheism and pantheism are often wrongly confounded. –Shipley.
2. Godlessness.
An “atheist” is one who denies the existence of a deity or of divine beings.
An “gnostic” is one who believes it impossible to know anything about God or about the creation of the universe and refrains from commitment to any religious doctrine. “Infidel” means an unbeliever, especially a nonbeliever in Islam or Christianity.
A “skeptic” doubts and is critical of all accepted doctrines and creeds.
An “atheist” is one who denies the existence of a deity or of divine beings.
An “gnostic” is one who believes it impossible to know anything about God or about the creation of the universe and refrains from commitment to any religious doctrine. “Infidel” means an unbeliever, especially a nonbeliever in Islam or Christianity.
A “skeptic” doubts and is critical of all accepted doctrines and creeds.
Beating people up.
Whats the crutch for?
“The purpose of life being life itself is not excellent enough who live poor, horrible lives. These people need something to look forward to after death”
if human beings truly _took care_ of one another, there wouldn’t be as much ‘need’ for a ‘God’ concept.
When do most people ‘turn to God’? when they are at their _lowest_. when no one else cares or SEEMS to care…….
People caring more about other people would mean less ‘need’ to look for something outside our realm of existence
The purpose of life being life itself is not excellent enough who live poor, horrible lives. These people need something to look forward to after death, I reckon.
The notion that the purpose of life is to serve a god according to that god’s will, that is the view that would result in unyeilding dispair for me. The dispair being brought on (under such a view) that my life is not mine, nor the purpose of it mine to choose. I do not dispair knowing that my life will end, with no afterlife (according to my view). I don’t want to live forever. Nor do I dispair because I believe that all life will eventually stop to exist. Must I? If so, why?
I’d argue that life does not have a clear purpose, which allows us to place any value and purpose we see fit. It’s by no means a necessity to do this, and nobody will hold the 100% right way of going about with life, but it’s more consistent with a secular worldview. I suppose it’s a less polemic version of Nietzsche’s thought of “overcoming” nihilism and making new values.